Faith

I have heard many unbelievers who claim that it is our faith that “saves” us and not Jesus Christ. The depths of depravity that would sink to that level is shocking. As the scriptures tell us, God gives certain ones over to a reprobate mind. Clearly it is a reprobate mind that could fathom a scenario where something we do offers us salvation. The scriptures tell us that only Jesus Christ has the keys to death and hell but, there are those who have sunk to the level that they would rather believe a lie than the truth.

 

Scripture tells us that there are those who have exchanged the truth for a lie. We also learn that there are “fools” who claim that there is no God. The whole doctrine of saving oneself is just as foolhardy as claiming that our faith saves us. In their “mind”, it’s as if Jesus Christ didn’t suffer the beating, the ridicule and the cross for us. 

 

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.” - Hebrews 11:1 NKJV

 

When crossing a bridge, we have “faith” that the bridge will hold the weight of our transportation plus us. When we step on an elevator, we have “faith” that it’s going to take us to the correct floor. When we climb stairs we have “faith” that the stairs will hold us. When we climb into our automobile we have “faith” that the automobile will start, run and stop correctly. The same could be said for boats, buses, airplanes/jets and trains. Yet, none of those things nor our “faith” in them will save us when we draw our last breath. Our “faith” did not do anything but allow us to use whatever mode of transportation that we desire. Our “faith” won't save us at the last but will enable us to choose where we will spend eternity. The scripture of choose ye this day whom you will serve comes to mind. 

 

You can have tons of “faith” that the bridge, elevator or stairs will hold you but, if they are faulty, your “faith” will be useless. You can have tons of “faith” that your automobile will start, run and stop correctly but if it’s malfunctioning, your “faith” will make no difference. An automobile for example that is not maintained WILL malfunction eventually regardless of how much “faith” you have in it. You may have a lot of “faith” in your employer and their business however, if business goes badly, you may find yourself in the unemployment line regardless of how much “faith” you had. For this and so many reasons there is no logic to the thinking that all one has to do is believe and viola’ salvation is granted. 

 

Clearly it’s not JUST faith but what that “faith” is in that can make the difference. Belief in oneself will not save you because you don’t have the authority, ability nor power to fulfill that belief. You cannot cure cancer just because you have “faith”. You cannot cure the illnesses of children either just because you have “faith” that you can. If having “faith” were all that was required, there would be virtually NO need for doctors, hospitals nor the practice of medicine. If “faith” were the only need, builders, plumbers, electricians, lab technicians, law enforcement and lawyers would all be unnecessary. Automobiles wouldn’t need mechanics any more, all that would be required is that drivers possessed “faith”. Insurance would no longer be needed either because it would be again, replaced by“faith”.

 

Imagine how the space program could be revolutionized! Space travel would no longer be “dangerous”! Immunizations would be a thing of the past. Famine, global warming, climate change, pollution, taxation, law, crime and victimization would all have ended long ago. Door locks would be  obsolete as well since “faith” is all that would be needed so the unbelievers claim. All government benefits would cease, because they were no longer needed. All taxation would cease as well since the government would just have “faith” that the funds would be there to govern. 

 

Crime would cease as well. No one would use drugs, buy drugs nor sell drugs. There would be no need for alcohol since all one would need to do is have “faith” that they would have a good time and be inebriated. There would be no rape, murder nor theft so stores would no longer need security personnel to watch for shoplifters. Yes, it all sounds “easy” if “faith” is all that is required.

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Comments (85)

  1. PTF

    Thing about faith is it doesn’t cost.
    No matter life’s obstacles(these times the numbers are growing)…faith gets me through it.

    April 07, 2017
    1. willsblog

      I agree! Proverbs 3:5 runs through my mind on a daily basis.

      April 08, 2017
  2. redeemedmind

    God is a good, good Father. He’s better than we think. It is his kindness that leads to repentance.

    April 11, 2017
    1. willsblog

      It is true for some. Just as the Bible says: “Narrow is the way and few who find it”.

      April 11, 2017
  3. redeemedmind

    I agree. I’m not universalist. I do think that we Christians can be legalistic. It is wrong of us to expect that unsaved people are going to share our morals and values. Biblical morals and values are the unwavering standard. But who among us has not broken the law? As believers we still break the law. There are some holy people who keep the commandments very faithfully, and that is very good. The bible says, however, that without love we are just making noise. That is always the problem when we have religion rather than relationship. God loves sinners. He is long suffering and slow to anger. We should be the same. Christians should not wink at sin, but we should understand that sanctification is process that will last as long as we live on planet earth, remembering that while we were sinners Christ dies for us.

    April 11, 2017
    1. willsblog

      Personally, I have no “morals” nor “values”. What I believe in is God’s morals and values. He is the one who has decreed what is and what is not moral. It is God who has warned us against what Society deems as “alright”. I cannot and will not take any credit for the ten commandments, they are God’s. “Christians” aren’t “legalistic” but christian wannabes are. I do not have the power to save anyone nor sentence them to an eternity of punishment, that is God’s realm. I wasn’t given the keys to death and hell, Jesus was. I can only communicate what scripture says but it’s up to each individual to either apply it or ignore it. I do not have “religion”, I have a relationship with God. The building (i.e. Church), that I go into cannot “save” me from eternal punishment, only God can. My Bible says that ALL have sinned and fallen short so in my humble opinion, there are NO “holy people” who “keep the commandments very faithfully”. I would love to hear how you differential between “winking at sin” versus “understanding”.

      April 11, 2017
  4. redeemedmind

    I explained above. Sanctification is a process. It does not happen them moment we are saved. God in His love and mercy reveals our own heart to us in bits. He weaves the tapestry of our lives so we learn. The more we learn of Him through his word and thereby renew our minds, the more we resemble Christ. All I’m saying is be like God. Read 1 Cor 13 again. Remind yourself what love is. If you already know and are practicing that love, wonderful. I’m not criticizing, just joining in the conversation. We’re talking about the same thing, God’s morals and values. Relax, Will. I’m on your side.

    April 11, 2017
    1. willsblog

      I’m very familiar with the book of Corinthians. What if the person dies before they believe they are “sanctified”, what then? How much time does a person have before they are sanctified? You make assumptions that sanctification does not happen at salvation, is that your opinion or can you back that up with scripture? How does willful sin differ from unknowing sin? Because God is perfect and all powerful, we will never be “like God”. I’m supposed to “relax”? Is that your directive or God’s? I’m not sure that we are talking about the same thing at all. You may be on my “side” however, are you on God’s “side”? Since you seem to stress “love” so much, can you tell me how David “loved” Goliath as he cut off his head? Since God “loved” Goliath, why didn’t he prevent David from killing him? Why didn’t the Lord prevent David from cutting off Goliath’s head? If God “loved” the Jews, why would He allow them to be slaves of Pharoh? What about those who God sentences to eternal punishment, how could He do that if He “loves” them? God threw Adam and Eve out of the Garden, how could He do that if He “loved” them? I believe it is you that needs to read and study more scripture and you would feel quite differently.

      April 11, 2017
      1. redeemedmind

        You seem really angry and agitated. I’m not sure why. I’m not attacking you. We are fully saved when we are saved by the all sufficient sacrifice and atoning death of Jesus. We are sanctified during the process of abiding or living with the Lord,spending time with Him communing in prayer, becoming more like Jesus as we yield to, love him and receive His love. “I am the vine you are the branches.” Abide in him and yield much fruit. Right? “If you love me you will keep my commandments”, right? Doesn’t God love? Is it not scriptural? “For God so loved he gave…” No one has ever been punished into goodness. God is a good and loving Father. He leads his flock like a Shepard, carries the lambs in his arms and gently leads the mamas to be. It’s beautiful true poetry, my friend, revealing the tender heart of the Father. Ah… I love him. “I am my beloved’s and He is mine.” Love you too, Will. Have a good night.

        April 11, 2017
        1. willsblog

          Absolutely nothing that some moron says could affect me much less make me “angry and agitated”. It’s quite obvious that you do not know me nor the God I serve. Apparently you don’t know the Bible either since you completely ignored my question about what scripture(s) you were referring to. As I’ve told other unbelievers on the Internet, I will continue to follow God and His word rather than what you lie about.

          April 12, 2017
          1. redeemedmind

            Will, I believe! I will read your response carefully and address each of your questions as best I can. Calling me a liar is pretty harsh, but as I said I can look up chapter and verse for you and make mention of them in my answers. Will, just tell me please, why have you got an issue with God being a kind and Loving God? When I have ample time I will make sure I read your post very carefully and answer each point. It may be a little while because my work schedule is kind of crazy and I’ve got some other issues that are pressing just now. I really do want to take the questions you’ve put forth seriously. God bless you tonight, child of the Most High God! May the Lord lavish you with His Fatherly tenderness. May he meet your needs, heal your body and bless your family. I pray your path will be strewn with gift from the treasury of His immeasurable love and grace. Every word is from the heart, Will. Goodnight.

            April 12, 2017
            1. willsblog

              I have no issues with God being kind and loving. What I find disturbing is that people cling to God’s kind and loving nature while totally ignoring His divine holiness and righteousness. We believe that a human judge should be both just and impartial yet we don’t believe that God will be. God’s word tells us that He IS just and He IS righteous so He WILL enact justice. People can cling to the kind and loving attribute if that soothes their ego but it’s NOT His only attribute as stated numerous times in scripture.

              April 12, 2017
      2. redeemedmind

        Add a reply…When we are fully trained we will be like our teacher, the Lord Jesus says. Like meaning similar to, not the same.

        April 11, 2017
        1. willsblog

          “When we are fully trained”? I wonder when you will claim that is? I notice that you didn’t list chapter and verse of what you claim are the words of Jesus. Interesting that you put words in God’s mouth also…

          April 12, 2017
          1. redeemedmind

            I can get the chapter and verse. Dude, this is just a discussion. Why are you so hateful? I love God and I love you, bro.

            April 12, 2017
            1. willsblog

              “hateful”? Hmmmm, in looking over my comments I said nothing about hating anyone. Could it be that you are attempting to put words in my mouth as well?

              April 12, 2017
          2. redeemedmind

            “A pupil is not above his teacher; but everyone, after he has been fully trained, will be like his teacher.” Luke 6:40 NASB.

            April 12, 2017
            1. willsblog

              I noticed that you pulled part of the verse that you thought aided your argument but failed to look at content, context nor the entire verse. Notice that Jesus is speaking in parables! "And He spoke a parable to them: Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into the ditch? A disciple is not above his teacher, but everyone who is perfectly trained will be like his teacher.. Luke 6:39 – 40 NKJV
              Are you “perfectly trained”? Have you been taught by Jesus? The blind here refers to teachers who cannot see where they are going and are unable to lead others. Jesus was warning His disciples against self-righteousness and arrogance. It is debated whether Jesus was describing the Pharisees here or simply warning His disciples about dangerous attitudes. The focus on the disciples attitudes suggests the latter, though the remark would also have applied to the teachers with whom Jesus was in conflict.

              April 12, 2017
            2. willsblog

              This is a trait of unbelievers. They seize on one or more verses that they believe supports their argument and then use it out of context. Many times they quote a part of the verse to “support” their claims.

              April 13, 2017
  5. redeemedmind

    And of course God loves the Jews.

    April 11, 2017
    1. willsblog

      I did not say nor claim that God didn’t love the Jews.

      April 12, 2017
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      2. redeemedmind

        Apologies, Will. I misunderstood. Forgive me, please.

        April 12, 2017
        1. willsblog

          Apology accepted. In the future I would take comments not for what you believe is implied but for what is actually stated.

          April 12, 2017
          1. redeemedmind

            Thank you for forgiving me and for your wise instruction. Communication is always imperfect, by that I mean “listening” and “talking.” I will try to pay closer attention.

            April 12, 2017
  6. redeemedmind

    Matthew 9:13King James Version (KJV)

    13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

    Hey, Will, here’s something Holy Spirit brought to mind I thought I’d share. You’re an uncompromising man of God and a teacher of the Gospel. Maybe we can discuss this verse and you can help me understand it.

    April 12, 2017
    1. willsblog

      First off, I’m just a Christian who has been blessed far beyond what I deserve. I do not consider myself a teacher, nor a prophet nor anyone with great understanding. I am still learning, still studying and still discovering what the Bible says. My opinion of the aforementioned scripture is that Jesus is more interested in a person’s loyal love than in external rituals.

      April 12, 2017
      1. redeemedmind

        Thank you.

        April 12, 2017
  7. redeemedmind

    You posted this. ““hateful”? Hmmmm, in looking over my comments I said nothing about hating anyone. Could it be that you are attempting to put words in my mouth as well?”

    For some reason the reply button is not popping up so I will respond in this way. You are correct, you did not use the word hate. This is what you said.

    “Absolutely nothing that some moron says could affect me much less make me “angry and agitated”. It’s quite obvious that you do not know me nor the God I serve. Apparently you don’t know the Bible either since you completely ignored my question about what scripture(s) you were referring to. As I’ve told other unbelievers on the Internet, I will continue to follow God and His word rather than what you lie about.”

    I assumed that you meant me, since you were commenting on my post, when you referred to ‘some moron’.

    You used the phrase, “other unbelievers.” You used the phrase, “what you lie about.” So if you are directing these comments at me, for all practical purposes you have called me a moron, an unbeliever, a liar, and one who does not know the bible. Going by these admonishments, I am getting an over all feeling of distain from you and it seems to be directed at me. So while it is true you never said hate, it all kind of feels hateful to me.

    Only God knows your heart. You are right. I came to a conclusion.

    April 12, 2017
    1. willsblog

      You got an “all over feeling of disdain” because you were attempting to say that I hated you, I don’t. You attempted to say that I called you a liar however, I did not say anything about hate, hating nor hateful so you were saying something untrue, in my book that is called a lie. You were making ridiculous accusations that were not founded on fact nor even my actual comments but on your supposition of what you THOUGHT I was saying rather than what I actually said, that my friend is why you were called a “moron”. God’s word is a two edged sword, it may FEEL hateful but it is not. The rebuke of a Christian may FEEL “hateful” but it is not. Feelings are fickle and cannot be trusted. In the same way, human beings are not righteous nor sinless, (“no not even one”). Neither of us are perfect so while you may have let your feelings get in the way, I too may have stated something incorrectly or used the wrong words. Calling you a moron was probably not the best choice of words however, I am human. When someone starts interpreting my emotions incorrectly it bothered me so I reacted probably inappropriately. I am not now nor have I ever been “agitated” by anything nor anyone on the Internet. I have laughed at the silliness but, that is far from agitation.

      April 12, 2017
  8. redeemedmind

    Bottom line, Will, is that I will never be any more perfectly trained by Jesus in this life than you’ll be. I’ve read your other posts and your responses to people’s comments. You win. You have a uniquely uncompromising view of a Holy and uncompromising God. I am doing my best to serve Him. If I fall short He is well able to correct me. If I am His and He is mine this scripture may apply to me.

    Hebrews 12 :4-8

    Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.

    5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

    6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

    7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

    8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons."

    April 12, 2017
    1. willsblog

      I am trying to figure out where you actually stand. One minute you say that you serve Him then you state “if I am His”. God only chastises His own, not wannabes, not heretics, not those who are “religious” and certainly not those who claim Him one minute and then turn around and ignore Him the next. If you are His then you are His all the time. If you are not then you are not and need salvation. “Doing your best” means that you are following His word, doing things His way and following His will. I have heard many who claimed to be “doing their best” as a way to justify their willful disobedience.

      April 12, 2017
      1. redeemedmind

        I am beginning to understand that abstract thought is not your strong point. I’m attempting to offer you ever possible gesture of humility and grace, but that seems to be of little value to you. I know I belong to God. I know I’m saved. I don’t even have to do my best because His is a finished work and I’m his child. I play to an audience of One and it is not you. I think at the end of it all you are going to be surprised at the unexpected companionship you share with others in eternity, Will.

        April 12, 2017
        1. willsblog

          “Abstract thought”? If by that you mean, unbeliever thoughts then no, I don’t. You are free to sin wantonly since you know that you are saved, you can justify whatever you want. You are free to rest on that “grace” and do whatever it is that you wish. I will continue to follow His commandments and His will rather than yours.

          April 13, 2017
          1. redeemedmind

            Be careful. You don’t know what people’s relationship with God is. You can’t see the heart of others. Some day you may fall yourself. Even now you need His grace daily. You are not the Almighty. You may think you have the best act going, but you need a savior, Will. You need His grace as badly today as you did the hour you were saved. Isa 64:6 "But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. "

            Will, you would be consumed by God’s Holy Wrath in the judgment if you were not wrapped in the righteousness of Jesus. If His mercy and grace did not enfold you, you’d burst into flame. Stand before Him and make your case, bro. I’m not your judge, but there is a righteous judge and it is not you. It is ia very small thing for me to be judged by you or any human court. No I am not going to give chapter and vers because my dinner is ready.

            Will, I’m sure you have an excellent irrefutable response.

            April 13, 2017
            1. willsblog

              No, I cannot read people’s minds. I cannot see their heart. I cannot determine their relationship with God. What I can do is look at scripture and see what it tells me to do. Scripture says that we will know them by their “fruit”. A good tree will have good fruit and a bad tree will have bad fruit.

              April 13, 2017
          2. redeemedmind

            1 Corinthians 4:3New American Standard Bible (NASB)

            3 But to me it is a very small thing that I may be examined by you, or by any human court; in fact, I do not even examine myself.

            April 13, 2017
            1. willsblog

              The fact that you don’t examine yourself doesn’t surprise me in the least.

              April 13, 2017
          3. redeemedmind

            “No, I cannot read people’s minds. I cannot see their heart. I cannot determine their relationship with God. What I can do is look at scripture and see what it tells me to do. Scripture says that we will know them by their “fruit”. A good tree will have good fruit and a bad tree will have bad fruit.”

            Yes, lets examine the fruit! I bear good fruit. Galatians 5:22-23 KJV

            22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

            23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

            April 13, 2017
            1. redeemedmind

              Loving? Check!
              Joyous? Check!
              Peaceful? Check!
              Longsuffering or patient? Check!
              Gentle? Check!
              Meek? I believe so. Meekness is not door matness, LOL.
              Temperant? Check!
              Goodness? Becoming more like my Saviour with steady progress. God alone is good, but Whom he forelnew he predestined to be conformed to the image of His son. That’s my life verse.

              Love you, Will. God shower you with His goodness and Grace today, as he has me!

              April 13, 2017
            2. willsblog

              I guess the book of Proverbs doesn’t apply to you, huh?

              April 13, 2017
            3. willsblog

              Arrogant? Check.
              Haughty? Check.
              Puffed up? Check.
              Self aggrandizing? Check.
              Lover of self? Check.
              Sure of self? Check.
              Christian wannabe? Check.
              Blasphemer? Check.
              Using God to pat yourself on the back? Check.
              “For many will come in my name saying ‘I am Christ’…”

              April 13, 2017
      2. willsblog

        I noticed that you completely avoided the “if I am His” comment that you made. You may serve but I’m not convinced that it’s the Lord.

        April 13, 2017
  9. tonytony

    Faith is not only positive thinking it’s the word of God talking anywhere———-Romans 10:17.
    Faith is not only courageous action it’s the word of God talking anywhere——Romans 10:17
    Faith is not only cross boasting your saved——Romans 6:1.
    Faith is living out all the bible to be saved——2 Timothy 3:16.
    Faith is credit for grace to save us when we live obey God——Romans 6:1.
    More about obeying God then being a lover——2 Cor. 6.
    More about obeying God then being a cross boaster to be saved——Romans 6:1.
    More about obeying God then getting married——Romans 7:2-3.
    More about obeying God then optimistic thinking——John 5:39.
    More about obeying God then tithing—-Galations 1:8-9.
    More about obeying God then going global for God——Matthew 7:6.
    More about obeying God then raising a family——Ephesians 5:2-23.
    More about obeying God then everybody on our prayer list——John 17:9
    More about obeying God then common sense——Jeremiah 17:9.
    More about obeying God then writing a vision——-Jeremiah 10:23.
    More about obeying God then hearing a voice——Romans 10:17
    More about obeying God then waiting to hear the Holy Spirit——John 6:63.
    More about obeying God being a hero——-Luke 6:26.
    More about obeying God then an overflow life——Luke 12:15.
    More about obeying God then knocking and seeking——Luke 3:14.
    More about obeying God then thinking holy——1 Peter 3:3.
    More about obeying God then never complaining——-James 5:20.

    April 12, 2017
    1. willsblog

      I’m not sure what you mean by “positive thinking”. The Bible tells us to think on what is pure, lovely, true, etc. In some circles “positive thinking” has nothing whatsoever to do with God, His word nor His commandments.

      April 12, 2017
      1. redeemedmind

        I think he’s agreeing with you, Will.

        April 13, 2017
        1. redeemedmind

          Loads of obedience there in his post.

          April 13, 2017
          1. willsblog

            Yes, “loads of obedience”…. My question still remains, obedience to whom?

            April 13, 2017
        2. willsblog

          I’m sure that you “think” he’s agreeing with me. The devil AGREED with Adam and Eve in the garden too…

          April 13, 2017
          1. redeemedmind

            The devil agreed with Adam and Eve? Hmmm. I don’t see that is the Bible. Would you like the entire interaction verbatim from the word? The bible says the enemy deceived Eve. 1 Tim 2:14 “And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.”

            KJV Genesis 3:1-6 says nothing about the devil agreeing with Adam and Eve. The serpent’s interaction with Adam and Eve is entirely encapsulated in these verses.

            1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

            2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

            3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

            4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

            5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

            6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

            Genesis 3:16 illuminates God’s solution for the Fall. Immediately after sin God’s grace begins to be revealed.

            April 13, 2017
            1. redeemedmind

              Correction. It was Genesis 3:15. So here it is direct from the KJV. Genesis 3:15 15And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel."

              April 13, 2017
            2. willsblog

              Yes, I’m sure that you THINK you know all about it. Obviously you don’t. Ever read Job 38?

              April 13, 2017
          2. willsblog

            Yes, the devil agreed with Adam and Eve. He took what God said and twisted it just a little to call into question what God said. He planted doubt in Eve’s mind using the word “surely”. God did not say that they would immediately die, He said that they would SURELY die. Just as the Lord said, both Adam and Eve DID die.

            April 13, 2017
            1. redeemedmind

              So not agreed upon by Eve and the enemy. The enemy twisted God’s word.

              April 13, 2017
            2. willsblog

              Not agreed? So why did Eve accept the temptation then?

              April 13, 2017
  10. redeemedmind

    “The fact that you don’t examine yourself doesn’t surprise me in the least.”

    1 Cor 4:3 is right there in the bible, Will. If you read carefully you will see I did not say I do not judge myself. That is from 1 Cor 4:3, and I believe the apostle is relating that he does not give consideration to the accusations of man, but to the thoughts God thinks toward him.

    April 13, 2017
    1. redeemedmind

      Just incase you mince words you can replace the word judge above with the word examine.

      April 13, 2017
      1. willsblog

        Yes, I’m sure that there are many words that you use interchangeably.

        April 13, 2017
  11. redeemedmind

    Odd… The reply button is not available on your responses to me at the moment. Here’s what God thinks of me, Will, because I’m His dearly loved child. He feels this way about you too, and everyone who seeks His salvation. Hey, He even loved you and me while we were yet sinners and sent His son to be the atoning sacrifice for our sins.

    Zephaniah 3:17 17The LORD your God is with you, the Mighty Warrior who saves. He will take great delight in you; in his love he will no longer rebuke you, but will rejoice over you with singing."

    Taking the bible as a whole, yes God rebukes and corrects. He is full of loving-kindness, grace, and His mercy endures forever. He is not FULL of wrath. Wrath against sin is one of his characteristics, but He is not full of wrath. He sent His beloved Son, my God and savior, to absorb the wrath that is justly aimed at my sin and yours.

    And, Will, I could put the whole bible here in quotes for you and you’d still not get it. I really, really pray some day you do.

    Do you remember Jimmy Swagart? (sorry if I spelled the name wrong) He preached a hell, fire, and brimstone msg. He really stood his ground on keeping the law. Secretly he trolled the streets for hookers. Today he is not remembered for his uncompromising msg, he is remembered for his fall. hmmm. Isn’t there something in the word about pride? Let me look it up for you so you’ll have chapter and verse. BRB

    April 13, 2017
    1. willsblog

      It’s easy to quote scripture that you think will support your argument. It’s quite another to live it… You are free to go about your life and live in your delusion, just don’t say that you weren’t warned because clearly you have been.

      April 13, 2017
      1. redeemedmind

        6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse! Galatians 1 :6-9.

        Yes, my dear bro., I’ve been warned and I live for Jesus, my savior. Again, be careful. You know nothing about my life relationship with God. He rejoices over me with singing. He loves me. He saved me from sin you cannot imagine and is changing me to the image of His dear Son. As I said.

        April 13, 2017
        1. willsblog

          And like I said, there is no doubt in my mind that you are being changed. What I question by your own words, is who is doing the changing.

          April 13, 2017
          1. redeemedmind

            LOL again! No house divided can stand. The enemy would not change me from what I was to what I am becoming. By the grace of God I go from glory to glory. OH, WILL. You don’t know me. God is changing me for the better and I’m cooperating with His Good plan for me. Truly do need to run, But I’ll catch you up tonight.

            April 13, 2017
            1. willsblog

              Nope, no house divided can stand. Neither can one have two masters.

              April 13, 2017
  12. redeemedmind

    Luke 14:11 For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

    April 13, 2017
    1. willsblog

      Gee, did you read that scripture after you patted yourself on the back or before?

      April 13, 2017
  13. redeemedmind

    Proverbs 16:18 18Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.

    April 13, 2017
    1. willsblog

      “Loving? Check!
      Joyous? Check!
      Peaceful? Check!
      Longsuffering or patient? Check!
      Gentle? Check!
      Meek? I believe so. Meekness is not door matness, LOL.
      Temperant? Check!
      Goodness? Becoming more like my Saviour with steady progress.” Gee, those were your words. I wonder how they stack up to the Book of Proverbs that you love to quote….

      April 13, 2017
      1. redeemedmind

        They stack. God knows my fruit and so do I. we should know

        April 13, 2017
        1. willsblog

          Yes He does and He will judge accordingly.

          April 13, 2017
  14. redeemedmind
    50His mercy extends to those who fear him, from generation to generation. 51He has performed mighty deeds with his arm; he has scattered those who are proud in their inmost thoughts. 52He has brought down rulers from their thrones but has lifted up the humble. Luke 1:50-52 NIV.

    I can get it from the KJV also. 50And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation. 51He hath shewed strength with his arm; he hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts. 52He hath put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them of low degree.

    Particularly beautiful passage, isn’t it.

    James 4:6 6But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble. Also KJV

    April 13, 2017
    1. willsblog

      Hmmmm, so you consider yourself of “low degree” then? By your words, you’ve “arrived” and are totally perfect….
      >
      “Loving? Check!
      Joyous? Check!
      Peaceful? Check!
      Longsuffering or patient? Check!
      Gentle? Check!
      Meek? I believe so. Meekness is not door matness, LOL.
      Temperant? Check!
      Goodness? Becoming more like my Saviour with steady progress.”
      >
      Did you know that even the devil and his imps believe in God and tremble at the very mention of His name?

      April 13, 2017
      1. redeemedmind

        Yes. they believe but they are not becoming more like Jesus with steady progress.

        April 13, 2017
        1. willsblog

          “They believed that they are not becoming more like Jesus with steady progress”? Hmmmmm.

          April 13, 2017
          1. redeemedmind

            Read my words, dear Will. “Yes. they believe, but they are not becoming more like Jesus with steady progress.” That is exactly what I said above. I copy pasted it. There is a slight but significant difference. They believe, BUT they are not becoming more like Jesus with steady progress."

            April 13, 2017
            1. willsblog

              “They” meaning everyone else?

              April 13, 2017
      2. redeemedmind

        We can bear all this good fruit and not have arrived at perfection. Never claimed Perfection, Will. Just fruitfulness. You said we’re known by our fruit. I’m fruitful!

        April 13, 2017
        1. willsblog

          According to you, you are fruitful. The devil thought himself to be better than God also…

          April 13, 2017
  15. redeemedmind

    KJV Ephesians 2:7. Here’s a thought. God’s grace extends infinitely toward us and we will be shown new facets of it for all eternity.

    That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

    Grace lasts forever. Wrath toward the child of God is non-existent.

    April 13, 2017
    1. willsblog

      If you are a “child of God”…

      April 13, 2017
      1. redeemedmind

        Oh, I am, Will. I definitely am a child of God. Yes indeed, my friend.

        April 13, 2017
        1. willsblog

          Interesting that you choose the words “IF I am a child of God” then…

          April 13, 2017
  16. redeemedmind

    Arrogant? Check.
    Haughty? Check.
    Puffed up? Check.
    Self aggrandizing? Check.
    Lover of self? Check.
    Sure of self? Check.
    Christian wannabe? Check.
    Blasphemer? Check.
    Using God to pat yourself on the back? Check.
    “For many will come in my name saying ‘I am Christ’…”

    LOL. Dear, Will!! We can know our fruit. We should.

    April 13, 2017
    1. willsblog

      Oh, I have no doubt that you know the “fruit” you bear. The devil knows the “fruit” he bears as well…

      April 13, 2017
      1. redeemedmind

        There you go again…that subtle inference that I am in some way in league with the enemy. Will, again I say, you just do not know me. You don’t. But that’s ok. At first I found you about as easy to embrace as a porcupine, but I’m beginning to like you quills and all. And because my Lord, Jesus loves you, so do I. My break is just about over. God continue to bless your day and shower you with kisses from heaven. He loves you like that, Will. He loves you like a tender hearted Father. Maybe your own Father was very hash and stern. Maybe he even hurt you. Well, God’s not Like that, Will. He is shameless in His tender affection for you. Please don’t delete this post. I really believe God wants you to understand how vast and overwhelming His love for YOU is. You and I may not see eye to eye. You and I see only in part. He knows all your stuff, your hurts, your brokenness, your secret sin, and He loves you just as you are, but will bring new restoration, and continue the good work he began in you. (and me)

        April 13, 2017
        1. willsblog

          Subtle inference? I have no idea who you are “in league with”. The fact that you choose to use the word “enemy” as opposed to the devil is indicative that the “enemy” is whomever you choose it to be. Could it be that your “enemy” is God? I cannot and will not say nor speculate. As the scriptures say, “choose ye this day whom you will serve”…

          April 13, 2017